David Rosenthal interview on Chris & Lorelai
David Rosenthal may not be our best friend right now for his portrayal of the Gilmore Girls, but at least he knows it. He was prepared for a fallout after airing the elopement on "French Twist" tonight. He prepared an interview with Ausiello:
I’m assuming it’s not going to be smooth sailing for the newlyweds, right?
David Rosenthal: It’s one thing to go off on this romantic weekend and get married; it’s another thing to actually come back and deal with the reality of being married. Lorelai’s never lived with anyone. They’ve never really lived together. This marriage puts a lot of pressure on them both. That’s the big theme for the latter half of the season for Lorelai and Chris, and for Rory. She’s facing graduation and her future, and she’s always thought, "Oh, I’m going to be a journalist." Rory’s going to open herself up to the possibility that there are other options out there for her.Rory’s going to embark on a new career?
Rosenthal: She’s never really considered anything else; now she’s willing to consider everything else. And there’s the other issue of Logan being back in New York. There are opportunities that could pull her away from Logan. Suddenly, it’s no longer a college relationship. It’s two people out in the world, so the stakes become higher.How will Logan’s return impact Rory in the short term?
Rosenthal: It will kind of rev up their relationship in good and bad ways. We’re going to see their relationship deepen and complicate in many ways.Will Rory find herself torn between Marty and Logan?
Rosenthal: No. Marty’s feelings for Rory will really be the issue; it’s not reciprocated. The man is still holding a torch. It’s something he just can’t seem to let go of, and it’ll definitely cause problems. But there’s nothing on Rory’s end. It’s not her thing — it’s his thing.Back to Lorelai and Christopher, fans are speculating that their marriage is going to be short-lived since David Sutcliffe is allegedly only going to be around for a handful of episodes during the second half of the season. And from that, they’re deducing that Lorelai will be back together with Luke by February. Your thoughts?
Rosenthal: I’m gonna say, "No comment."
Ausiello also drops some other spoilers for Gilmore Girls:
I heard that Rory gets mad at Lorelai about eloping.
Ausiello: Actually, I hear Rory takes the news surprisingly well. Luke, on the other hand, finds out when he spots the ring on Lor’s finger. That’s gotta hurt.You never talk about Gilmore Girls anymore! What gives?
Ausiello: I’m inclined to think I more than made up for it this week, Candy. But here’s another extra spoilery tidbit, you ungrateful brat: A somewhat reliable Stars Hollow mole tells me that Episode 13 marks a major turning point in the Luke/Lorelai/Christopher triangle. Apparently, Luke and Christopher choose to deal with Richard’s health crisis in very different ways: Luke chooses to run around helping Emily, while Christopher chooses to go off and sulk about a bad fight he had with Lorelai. Cue the inevitable Lorelai epiphany.
Well, I don’t know about you guys, but I am really interested in seeing what happens to Rory, and definitely interested in how Luke comes back into the picture. I also really pity Marty for never having a chance with Rory.
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28 opinions for David Rosenthal interview on Chris & Lorelai
Savage Daughter
Nov 15, 2006 at 5:49 am
The level of desperately Gilmore Girls has gone to this season clearly shows Amy Sherman-Palladino was the soul of the characters. I have been watching this show religiously since its birth. Many Tuesdays I could not wait until 8pm to catch up with the gang in Stars Hallow. However now I find myself fast forwarding through most of it, only to end with a bitter taste in my mouth 60 minutes later.
Since when did Lorelai become so desperate to be cared for? She has always been a model of independence for single moms, this is a woman who left home at 16 with her infant daughter, cleaned hotels and now owns an Inn.
And Rory Gilmore with no direction? You have got to be kidding me! Rory has had direction since she could articulate the word. She has been dummed down, at the rate this show is going she might as well dye her hair blonde, record a computerized compact disk and rename herself Lindsay, Paris, Jessica, or Ashley.
The show was about a community that interacted with one another. David Rosenthal has killed this; it is now three to four stories about different cast members, many who do not inner act with each other. It is clear Mr. Rosenthal does not care about the flavor of Gilmore Girls, rather he is looking to write a primetime hit show, and lets face it, dumming down women and adding side stories is what are mainstream society is watching. At the rate this show is going Lorelai and Rory will probably take up ballroom dancing.
There is no idealism David Rosenthal could possibly think of that will save this show from its downward spiral into mundane television entertainment. It would behoove the CW to bring back Amy Sherman-Palladino unless the true intention is to let this show run its course and end as a soul sucking Desperate Housewives copy cat.
dar
Nov 15, 2006 at 6:42 am
“No comment.” so annoying..
Angel
Nov 15, 2006 at 7:01 am
I disagree. I think Rory is growing up and it is nice to see Alexis Bledel acting instead of trading quick-witted one-liners with Lauren Graham for a change.
Rory is on the cusp of adulthood. Her entire life she has been on a path to be a good student, and now that her academic life is ending and the real world is facing her, she, like many other young people her age, are uncertain and unsure. It is nice to see an element of realism being incorporated into the show.
Am I the only one who likes Lorelai and Chris together? I feel the actors have much better chemistry than the Lorelai-Luke angle from last season– the show easily would have jumped the shark if that plotline had played out.
I am enjoying the fact that the actors are showing some dimension– Lorelai is an independant woman, but she is also a woman wanting to be loved. I like the direction the show has taken.
Amanda
Nov 15, 2006 at 9:05 am
i don’t like this guy at all. God.
Michele
Nov 15, 2006 at 10:27 am
I think it will take some adjusting to the thing with Lorelai and Chris. I can overall understand why they are together and why the want to be together. But it just feels too soon. After watching this show forever and maybe not being as an avid fan as some it feels really too soon.
Rory and college — I know that as a recent college graduate it is truly that overwhelming. I wanted to pretend that I wasn’t scared of what the future holds. And at first your not but then it hits you that your entire life has been dedicated to one thing and now that one thing is done and over with. Part of me wants to go back sooner than I planned but the other part wants to stick it out and give life a chance. One of my best friends was in the same place as Rory and to this day I still hear her coming up with new ideas of things to do with her life. School is all emcompassing and somehow they never teach you how to be in life without being in school.
One thing I can say I regret and miss is the townspeople interactions. I love, love that. I enjoy the Taylor and Kirk story lines and feel that sometimes we are so focused on the new relationships with Lorelai and Chris and Rory and Logan or Rory and her new friends. I was wondering when they were going to address the Lane being pregnant and Mrs. Kim finding out. I enjoy those times in Stars Hollow and feel we just don’t get to see the townspeople enough. I understand that they can’t focus on them but it would be nice to have some of that interaction. As well as more Rory and Paris what happened to them? Hopefully all my questions will be answered during the season.
Trevor
Nov 15, 2006 at 11:08 am
Savage Daughter’s review is right on the money. The show has no soul now, and the characters act like they have all taken to huffing gasoline fumes; In particular, Rory and Lorelai seem to have dropped about fifty IQ points over the summer.
I bought the first six seasons of Gilmore Girls on DVD. I certainly won’t be getting this one. I just hope the show gets cancelled before its legacy is soiled any further by the clearly incompetent David Rosenthol.
Jen
Nov 15, 2006 at 11:24 am
Lorelai has always been somewhat desperate (though she never showed it), but never pathetic (unless of course David Rosenthal is writing about your life)
Even if I disapprove of some aspects of the show, I have to agree with Angel on one thing:
“Lorelai is an independant woman, but she is also a woman wanting to be loved.”
She’s strong (always has and always will be), but she too has weaknesses and needs. However, it seems that David Rosenthal has a hard time finding a balance between Lorelai’s strong side and her weak side. Lauren Graham is one of the greatest actresses on television, she can handle both as she has demonstrated for 6 entire seasons. Wake up David Rosenthal!! The actors are talented - they deserve a great script.
I’m going to be watching until the very end, but I really hope the writers will be more careful with Lorelai. I don’t fully disapprove with the current storyline - I understand why they did it (especially when they were talking about their past). However, David Rosenthal should explore the other side of Lorelai’s personality.
DA
Nov 15, 2006 at 11:24 am
Apparently, Luke and Christopher choose to deal with Richard’s health crisis in very different ways: Luke chooses to run around helping Emily, while Christopher chooses to go off and sulk about a bad fight he had with Lorelai. Cue the inevitable Lorelai epiphany.
INEVITABLE LORELAI EPIPHANY?? wooooohoooooo!!!! :) Geez, girl, you’ve had your head in the clouds just a little too long… But one question: I wonder how Luke figures into the mix? He, last time I checked, is not a huge fan of Emily Gilmore and doesn’t have a lot of contact with her anyway. I CANNOT wait to see this!!!!
Tara Ashley
Nov 15, 2006 at 11:43 am
I am a HAPPY girl!!! So happy! Finally, Lorelai sees clearly. Yes, I agree DA, it’s odd that Luke will be helping Emily out. I wonder how that will come about? Ahhhhhhh it is a WONDERFUL day for Luke and Lorelai fans :)
Tara Ashley
Nov 15, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Oh and Jen, I completely agree! These are AMAZING actors and actresses, especially Lauren Graham! Stop giving them poor scripts.
Does anyone else wonder how an actress as talented as Lauren can stomach these lines? How is she not thinking to herself, wow this sucks?
ZUzzy
Nov 15, 2006 at 2:42 pm
I agree with Angel here as well. While I vehemently despise Christopher, truly I think he is the lowest scum on the planet, and I hate that they got married… there are still some things that I think were nicely handled.
I think the writers are doing a very good job of subtly showing this desperate side of Lorelei. She’s finally reaching the point in her life, with Rory practically a grown woman now, where she is truly terrified of being alone for the rest of her life.
At the start of the show, Lorelei is a 32 year old, independent mother of a 16 year old daughter who still needed her guidance. At this point, 7 years later, Rory is 22 years old and she is 37, as hard as it is to believe, she’s coming close to 40 and it’s easy to believe that she’s wondering where she’ll be in the next 40 years of her life. That’s why I can understand why she’s turning to Christopher right now. In him, she sees a promise of never having to be alone. I think part of it is in response to the fact that she was sure that Luke was the one she was going to spend the rest of her life with. And when she saw that crumbling before her eyes, well, it’s easy to understand why she would panic.
I believe that’s part of the reason why they are getting married so quickly, and why it won’t last. Even last night, Christopher had to “convince” her that they should get married. Almost to the point where he was pushing it on her. And it’s obvious she’s feeling the pressure because even she initially thinks it’s too soon, and Rory doesn’t know etc. etc.
Even in the final scene where she’s fiddling with her wedding ring, there is still a conflicted look on her face, as if she was trying to convince herself she did the right thing. Deep down, I think she knows it’s not right, because, after all, she’s clearly not over Luke. But her desperation to not be alone pushed her to go ahead with it anyway.
I think it’s a risky move on the writers part, and it’s certainly painful to watch. But it’s also the first time that this show has been realistic in recognizing that Lorelei is NOT superwoman, and that she does have needs, and she is starting to panic in not having those needs fulfilled. Obviously, in a plot twist, she’s going about it the wrong way, because what’s a show without drama.
I think now is when the season is going to get interesting. Rory’s season arc is finally starting (at what episode is this, the 8th one?) where she’s going to be unsure of what career path she should take, and we’ll have the whole Marty/Rory/Logan love triangle.
And I think that Lorelei’s story will get interesting. It might not always be fun to watch. But It will definately get little more exciting. It won’t just be Lorelei dating Christopher peacefully all the while pretending she wasn’t engaged to Luke some two months ago. It won’t be Lorelei and Chris’ story while Luke is on the other side of town hanging out with April. It will now seriously become a dramatic love triangle between Chris/Lorelei/Luke. I think in the beginning of the ark it will start with Luke’s reaction to the marriage. And then through episodes 8-15 or so it will be Chris witnessing subtle interactions between Luke and Lorelei that show they are still hopelessly in love with each other. All the while, Richard and Emily’s arc this season will be his health crisis, which I think will be much more serious than the one in Season 1. I think he might have a lengthy recovery time. This arc has the potential to be as good as the Season 4/5 arc of them being separated.
Overall, I think this season is shaping up to be pretty exciting. Not necessarily fun to watch (Lorelei/Chris) but exciting nonetheless.
I can honestly say that my only concern is how they handle Luke and Lorelei getting back together. I will be seriously upset if they write the reunion as if Lorelei didn’t even sleep with Christopher or get married to him. I think it is important that they acknowledge that alot has happened since they broke up at the beginning of the season. I also think the reunion has to be dramatic. It can’t just be Lorelei going “Oh it didn’t work out with Chris, maybe I can run back to Luke and convince him that I’m worth his time.”
It could be very easy for the writers to slip and make Lorelei look like a skank when she runs back to Luke.
It is my belief that Richard’s health crisis will play a part in Lorelei’s “epiphany” about Luke. It’s also important that there is a plausible reason why their marriage doesn’t last. it has to be something like Chris is unable to cope with the burdens of marriage and it takes its toll on Lorelei and Rory both.
But yes, it’ll be interesting…
Ferris
Nov 15, 2006 at 10:49 pm
I hate what Rosenthal has done to this show.
What’s up with Rory’s idiotic new friends? I hope they get hit by a bus.
They aren’t the slightest bit funny or appealing. The intelligent, well-read Rory would have mocked them!
Kayla
Nov 16, 2006 at 12:27 pm
i totally agree with savage daughter. And the romantic scenes between lorelai and chris at the restraunt in paris were ridiculous. It really is a mark on how much the show has changed. This show was known for its dialouge, the lines between chris and lorelai were digusting and unbeleivable… “i’m just so happy… i love you” i wanted to barf.
and whats with the whole rory thing she has always had direction, now she doesn’t? that’s not rory. We also never see the town people anymore, or rory and paris, some of the funniest lines come from paris… “i get that from my mother… she’s part viking” hahah
also what was with lorelai getting married and not telling rory!?!?!?! This show has revolved around Rory and Lorelai’s relationship since the beggining, they are best friends they did everything together. Lorelai would never have gotten married without telling rory first! It was one of the most heinous things rosenthall could have done.
i hate what rosenthall has done to the show. I also noticed in the previous episode how he has even changed luke’s daughter april. She also seems to have also lost about 50 IQ points. she went from smart and studious to a giggling ditzy girl.
Nora
Nov 17, 2006 at 8:28 am
I honestly believe we need to give Rosenthal a chance.
I find Lorelai and Rory’s behaviour this season completely justifiable given what they have been through.
Although on the surface it may seem the Lorelai doesn’t care about her break up with Luke, I have to disagree. Why else would she seem so desperate to be loved? Clearly she’s hurting pretty badly and I’m really curious to see how this plays out.
As for Rory, as any college student can tell you: her behaviour is 100% normal! I’d actually be surprised if she wasn’t freaking out. I mean, its the rest of her life she’s worrying about. A little fear is to be expected.
It is also worth noting that ASP left season 6 with Lorelai in bed with Chris. That can’t be ignored or shrugged off while she jumps back into Luke’s arms. I think the direction of the show is relatively the best possible way for Rosenthal to handle the character’s lives. Lets take Chris’ proposal for example: Lorelai said they should wait. One of her reasons? Rory. Sound familiar? (Hint: Luke wanting to wait because of April) I think that was a great plot device and rather ironic. If Luke and Lorelai were to get back together without any kind of conflict, season 7 would have about 3 episodes.
Bottom line: Luke and Lorelai can work this out. I have faith in Rosenthal. (And I think he deserves a little respect, taking on a show as huge as GG)
Andy Partridge
Nov 17, 2006 at 9:31 am
I agree with you Kayla. Rosenthal has changed April’s intelligence level from genius to mildly retarded.
Also, have you noticed he is stripping the girls of all their power?
(Rory no longer editor, Lorelai fawnng over Christopher, etc.)
Sad…
Andy Partridge
Nov 17, 2006 at 9:33 am
And Nora? Rosenthal will only get my respect if he resigns for the good of the show.
claudia
Nov 19, 2006 at 1:02 pm
gg is turning into desparate housewife. I hate chris, seeing hin with lorelai makes me gag. i can’t wait for luke and lorelai.
mandy ritchie
Nov 19, 2006 at 5:54 pm
i think lorelai and chris make a wonderful couple i really think they will make their marriage last long time & rory will be happy with someone new in her life like marty maybe he will be better for her
Rachel
Nov 19, 2006 at 10:16 pm
Rory’s goal at education was never education itself, path was not to be a good student only. It was to be a good student b/c that would make it possible for her to be a journalist like her idol, I don’t remember who it was but some famous journalist. In the eposide from season one, I think it was called something like, The Lorlei’s first day at Chilton, she told the headmaster that she wanted to see something. She had a dream. I know that it is realistic that a person would be questioning that dream at this point in her life, but this is TV show, not real life. I don’t watch the show so I can see Rory make the same dumb mistakes that a lot of women make everyday. I want to see her succeed, I don’t want to see her loose sight because she is “in love” with some stupid boy that does not love her back the same way. Which is what we were seeing when she dropped out of Yale for awhile.
I agree with whoever said this show could end up being like some stupid Desperate Housewife type show. Come on, Rosenthal, this was a smart, witty, fun, imagintive, unique show! If we want to see boring, fluff, and women throwing their lives away while they sleep with the wrong men, we can turn on pretty much any other channel, any other night of the week. I want to be excited about Tuesday night again, and not only to be disappointed an hour later!
Michaela
Nov 24, 2006 at 6:34 pm
You’re forgetting that ASP wrote herself in season 6 , having Lorelia say she’s ready to get married and have another kid and ASP created that desperate longing for her to start that phase of her life. I’m really sick of people being so down on the new producer. ASP is the one who started Lorelai on this trail. Plus season 6 was awful and ASP was still the producer then. Even if she was still directing, if she kept it like season 6 it would be just as bad or worse!
Rachel
Nov 24, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Michaela You are right, this is not something new, it was starting early one. I think it started getting worse from the time Rory slept with Dean. But I do think that the show is worse without ASP, b/c the dialoge isn’t as witty, quick, and fun, and there is little to know Stars Hollow and when there is it is something stupid like, a pickle truck.
Michaela
Nov 25, 2006 at 5:44 pm
Rachel, I can definetly see your point with that, I do miss the better dialogue. It’s just funny that people are saying Lorelai wants to be dependent on a man all the sudden, and isn’t the independent woman everyone knew before. That doesn’t make sense to me because, if you think about it, it’s only natural for a woman to start thinking about “not wanting to be alone” anymore especially once she reaches a certain age. I remember back in season 3 after Chris went back to Sheri, Lorelai went into Luke’s and was pouring her heart out to him telling him that she really wanted the “whole package” the growing old together, being married kind of thing. And I know that in past seasons the show has shown her looking in a sense for that one special person and even talking about wanting another child someday. Rory is growing up now naturally and has a life of her own. Single mom or not, that’s just life, your kid’s grow up and I think Lorelai is realizing that with Rory, it’s not going to be like it was when she was in high school. So that’s why I don’t agree with people saying she’s “all the sudden” dependant on a man, and that’s what’s ruining the show, I think she’s with the wrong guy, but I think her getting married, and having a baby with Luke would be a great ending to the show, and it wouldn’t make her look weak at all.
Rachel
Nov 25, 2006 at 5:51 pm
I think it would be icing on the cake if she were to marry Luke and have a baby (before the end of the show), but I think the show ending with Rory/Laurelei bff to the end type feel is most important thing
Anna
Nov 26, 2006 at 8:15 am
These plot developments dont make sense. It’s only November; why are they portraying Rory as being ready to leave Yale? The last year can be very important, and it’s like she’s throwing it away. Also why is Rory paying attention to these two new airhead girlfriends, Wasting time w/them, dying her hair, etc.? It’s so out of character.
Anna
Nov 26, 2006 at 8:38 am
These plot developments dont make sense. It’s only November; why are they portraying Rory as being ready to leave Yale? The last year is important, and it’s like it’s already over.
Also what about these two new airhead girlfriends? Why does she waste time w/them, dying her hair, etc.? It’s so out of character. She’s not that depressed or confused.
As far as Lorelie and Chris being married, the plot could go this way: they stay married and Luke marries Anna, the mother of his daughter, but that’s unlikely because Anna’s out of town and the actress who plays her is probably off the show and in any eventwould take another season to develop. OR (my preference) Lorelie & Chris split up because it was a romantic impulse, but too late; they should have done it years ago or not at all.
After all, Luke had a brief impulsive marriage in the past, and this could be the same for Lorelie, after which she and Luke could get together.
Lisa
Dec 6, 2006 at 5:07 pm
I have never thought anyone but Christopher belonged with Lorelei. They come from the same backgrounds, have Rory and have always been meant to be. Grouchy Luke and his backward cap seems like such an idiot. What in the world does she have in common with him? They can’t even let the marriage seem good for even one episode. I won’t watch the show when Luke gets back together with her.
Also, they need to lose Lucy & Olivia & Marty (boring, boring characters who Rory would never have befriended). Give their time to Logan.
Jay
Dec 8, 2006 at 12:07 pm
I’m in the minority here but I love Chris and Lor together. I love the on-screen chemistry between the 2 actors and feel that now the writers should make them mature and compromsing to each other to give their relationship a go. Sadly, thanks to most of the fans, Chris will be eased off very soon. This to me makes Lorelai extremely wishy-washy and hardly shows any growth in her character. Oh well, I’ll enjoy them together (and David Sutcliffe) on TV while it lasts !
Anna
Dec 8, 2006 at 3:49 pm
Give more time to Logan? Oh, I hope not. He’s not good for Rory. He drinks and encourages her to drink (she has a record because ofit) he’s critical and controlling of her, causing her to doubt herself. He is not a good person and Rory has seen that and become disappointed and disillusioned with him, but then she goes back. I hope the writers realize who she really is, and let her get herself together and back on track - her own track. Thank you.
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